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richard
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Posted - 31/10/2005 : 09:44:43
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We are confronted with immense, globalwide problems which look increasingly likely to overwhelm us all unless we find within ourselves a capacity to change and work together never yet experienced by the human species. The JMF Committee is now looking at possible topics for our 2006 Conference. Could this topic be one? What parts of John Macmurray's work are relevant? I would start with the role of fear which so often reduces our capacity for creativity. JM's redefinition of reason, including the emotional, may be crucial. What do you think?
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ivansayer
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Posted - 13/11/2005 : 00:00:00
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At the moment, this is more of a question than a topic. My own strongest experience of personal change came from direct involvement in the cause of the Timorese. We have new things to learn which can mostly only be learned in action. If you want a slogan - 'engagement teaches'. This is in keeping with MacMurray's philosophy of action and the view of immediate experience set forth in 'Interpreting the Universe' but it carries you beyond it. While my opinion of his epistemology is high, I find his historical judgment rather weak for reasons I've partly explained in another topic. (It is, however, a *shared* weakness - he wasn't, by any means the only leftie who overvalued the communist experiment in Russia or who desperately wanted to believe that Europe was going to turn a major corner in his lifetime.) Yes, we have all sorts of problems, mostly very complex, rising across the horizon. We may learn from them and settle to a more sensible way of life, or we may be destroyed by them. I find the former slightly more probable, but I cannot know, and, as I'm sixty-three, I anticipate no serious stable solutions emerging in my lifetime. While I'm a lifelong MacMurrayan, I'd have to recommend him on the basis of his epistemology and recommend other reading and direct political/social involvement for learning about contemporary problems. I'm not even sure that I would recommend him at all. It would depend on who was at the receiving end of the recommendation.
Greetings Ivan Sayer
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ivansayer
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Posted - 14/11/2005 : 18:19:03
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Hi All, As an addendum to my last rather pessimistic post I thought I'd add more about the reasons why I think our philosopher's purchase on our contemporary problems is strictly limited. Most of our problems have either an ecological nub or, even where they are human/social/spiritual they have a solidly ecological backdrop. MacMurray's philosophy is not consciously ecological. I suggest one topic for any serious study of MacMurray is precisely the relation (or lack of) between his philosophy and and recent ecological thought. It may be that he wished to include emotion in the definition of rationality. But our emotions have an at least partly organic basis - and he was wont to either deny that human beings are organisms or to concede that they were but assert that that fact was not 'of the essence'. He turned away from what he called 'philosophy of organism' rather than trying to extract what there was of value in it and take that on to a new synthesis. Of course, this criticism is made with due humility - after all, if I knew how to do that I'd be on the presses and bookshelves. It strikes me as wholly remarkable that Albert Schweizer was just as sceptical as MacMurray of European Civilization *before* the first world war had even happened; and that the phrase which encapsulates his personal response is 'Reverence for Life'. Ivan
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ivansayer
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Posted - 16/06/2006 : 20:43:37
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Hi Again, I feel constrained to add a short remark to what I've said already. There is at least one problem that is both wholly objective and deeply personal in the range of problems to which I have pointed - namely the problem of sustainable population levels. At the moment, in most countries, population levels are the combined result of private decision and after the fact administrative decisions based on statistics. Of course, what constitutes a sustainable population depends on the kind of life that population lives or plans. As I see it, our philosopher's thought offers small purchase on this extremely intricate problem. He discusses personal relations normally as between equals or in one chapter of 'Persons In Relation' between mother and child. Relations across more than two generations as personal do get brief mention - e.g. in the last chapter of 'Self as Agent' - but only that, brief. Ivan
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